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	<title>Comments on: Drowned Geoff</title>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/drowned-geoff/comment-page-1#comment-1199</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, all fair points and eminently sensible, but I still don&#039;t feel shocked by these images, the way I did, for example, by anti-nuclear-war propaganda in the 80s. Now that was truly shocking, bed-wettingly terrifying. The film &#039;Threads&#039;, for example...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, all fair points and eminently sensible, but I still don&#8217;t feel shocked by these images, the way I did, for example, by anti-nuclear-war propaganda in the 80s. Now that was truly shocking, bed-wettingly terrifying. The film &#8216;Threads&#8217;, for example&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Best</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/drowned-geoff/comment-page-1#comment-1198</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that site but the article is from a distinct point of view that is divorced from the reality of existence for most of the world&#039;s population.

I don&#039;t have, and could never afford, a hummer to drive round the future in. Where would bottled water come from.

Being able to romanticise such futures would depend on having the means to survive it. Drought for the poor - the geopolitcally compromised - is a different matter.

I&#039;d have approached the piece with a more cautious tone.

Also, the sex and children scare tactics is more like telling people what to fear as opposed to actually shocking them. Part of a much more intentioned campaign of diversions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that site but the article is from a distinct point of view that is divorced from the reality of existence for most of the world&#8217;s population.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have, and could never afford, a hummer to drive round the future in. Where would bottled water come from.</p>
<p>Being able to romanticise such futures would depend on having the means to survive it. Drought for the poor &#8211; the geopolitcally compromised &#8211; is a different matter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have approached the piece with a more cautious tone.</p>
<p>Also, the sex and children scare tactics is more like telling people what to fear as opposed to actually shocking them. Part of a much more intentioned campaign of diversions.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, I live in Australia and believe me I know all about climate change. We are in the middle of a severe and ongoing drought; I&#039;ve posted on this a few times on the site. As for the Greenpeace book, Geoff wasn&#039;t saying that climate change isn&#039;t an issue, merely that this method of conveying it is not doing what it was intended to do -- that is, to shock.

Thanks for the link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, I live in Australia and believe me I know all about climate change. We are in the middle of a severe and ongoing drought; I&#8217;ve posted on this a few times on the site. As for the Greenpeace book, Geoff wasn&#8217;t saying that climate change isn&#8217;t an issue, merely that this method of conveying it is not doing what it was intended to do &#8212; that is, to shock.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link!</p>
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		<title>By: jack heron</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/drowned-geoff/comment-page-1#comment-1200</link>
		<dc:creator>jack heron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The overlap with Ballard is obvious, but here in Spain climate change is moving a little faster than it is for you folks in the temperate north, with crops failing, reservoirs drying, and &#039;seasons&#039; out of kilter. Hence the Greenpeace book, to jolt some into thinking about it. You can download the whole thing at this url

http://www.greenpeace.org/espana/reports/libroclima

Disfrutar...

Jack Heron
Andalucia, Spain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overlap with Ballard is obvious, but here in Spain climate change is moving a little faster than it is for you folks in the temperate north, with crops failing, reservoirs drying, and &#8217;seasons&#8217; out of kilter. Hence the Greenpeace book, to jolt some into thinking about it. You can download the whole thing at this url</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greenpeace.org/espana/reports/libroclima" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenpeace.org/espana/reports/libroclima</a></p>
<p>Disfrutar&#8230;</p>
<p>Jack Heron<br />
Andalucia, Spain.</p>
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