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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/the-wind-from-nowhere-is-now-a-wind-from-somewhere/comment-page-1#comment-1038</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All fair points Nicola/Toby. As far as I&#039;m concerned, it&#039;s a bit of a storm (or wind) in a tea cup. I completely agree with you that we don&#039;t need confirmation from Ballard. This site and its various outlandish theories wouldn&#039;t exist if that were the case. In any case, Ballard repeatedly asserts that The Drowned World is his &#039;first novel&#039; so he&#039;s hardly a reliable witness...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All fair points Nicola/Toby. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, it&#8217;s a bit of a storm (or wind) in a tea cup. I completely agree with you that we don&#8217;t need confirmation from Ballard. This site and its various outlandish theories wouldn&#8217;t exist if that were the case. In any case, Ballard repeatedly asserts that The Drowned World is his &#8216;first novel&#8217; so he&#8217;s hardly a reliable witness&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Litt</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/the-wind-from-nowhere-is-now-a-wind-from-somewhere/comment-page-1#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby Litt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did reply to David Pringle, privately.

Here is what I said (not having read Paul Bowes posting above, but our point do co-incide):

Firstly, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessary to have confirmation from Ballard that he intentionally wrote an &#039;elemental quartet&#039;. The elements are so deeply embedded within our western culture that it&#039;s more than possible he did it unconsciously. And, if challenged, he would probably deny it anyway - as he tends to deny most things ascribing arcane motives to him. If I - or anyone else - decides to read them as that, and makes a decent case for it, I see that as perfectly fair. Otherwise we would end up doing nothing but biographical criticism. Ballard&#039;s own reading of Ballard is, I&#039;d argue, not all that interesting. Or not as interesting as that of some other writers.

Secondly, at the recent Ballard conference at UEA, Eunju Hwang gave a paper called &#039;Disastrous Lanscapes and Self-Quest in J.G.Ballard&#039;s Natural Transformation Quartet&#039;. This was clearly an attempt to reread the four interlinked novels in a way that took for granted that they were interlinked. As far as I remember, no-one in the audience got up to challenge this. The use of &#039;..World&#039; within three of the four titles suggests that these three novels are in some way to be thought of together. Drowning World involves water; Burning involves fire. Nothing is being forced there. So, it&#039;s not going to be long before people look for the other two elements.

Thirdly, I think there is a technical point about The Crystal World. If you were to wish to make &#039;earth&#039; fatal, but not by, say, turning it into molten lava which would kill all the characters within moments, how would you do it? Turning it into something as useless as crystal seems to me to solve the problem.

So, I wasn&#039;t duped by Wikipedia. The reading I favour may possibly be perverse, but that&#039;s Ballard for you.

Very best wishes, etc

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Nicola Barker/Toby Litt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did reply to David Pringle, privately.</p>
<p>Here is what I said (not having read Paul Bowes posting above, but our point do co-incide):</p>
<p>Firstly, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessary to have confirmation from Ballard that he intentionally wrote an &#8216;elemental quartet&#8217;. The elements are so deeply embedded within our western culture that it&#8217;s more than possible he did it unconsciously. And, if challenged, he would probably deny it anyway &#8211; as he tends to deny most things ascribing arcane motives to him. If I &#8211; or anyone else &#8211; decides to read them as that, and makes a decent case for it, I see that as perfectly fair. Otherwise we would end up doing nothing but biographical criticism. Ballard&#8217;s own reading of Ballard is, I&#8217;d argue, not all that interesting. Or not as interesting as that of some other writers.</p>
<p>Secondly, at the recent Ballard conference at UEA, Eunju Hwang gave a paper called &#8216;Disastrous Lanscapes and Self-Quest in J.G.Ballard&#8217;s Natural Transformation Quartet&#8217;. This was clearly an attempt to reread the four interlinked novels in a way that took for granted that they were interlinked. As far as I remember, no-one in the audience got up to challenge this. The use of &#8216;..World&#8217; within three of the four titles suggests that these three novels are in some way to be thought of together. Drowning World involves water; Burning involves fire. Nothing is being forced there. So, it&#8217;s not going to be long before people look for the other two elements.</p>
<p>Thirdly, I think there is a technical point about The Crystal World. If you were to wish to make &#8216;earth&#8217; fatal, but not by, say, turning it into molten lava which would kill all the characters within moments, how would you do it? Turning it into something as useless as crystal seems to me to solve the problem.</p>
<p>So, I wasn&#8217;t duped by Wikipedia. The reading I favour may possibly be perverse, but that&#8217;s Ballard for you.</p>
<p>Very best wishes, etc</p>
<p>-</p>
<p>Nicola Barker/Toby Litt</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/the-wind-from-nowhere-is-now-a-wind-from-somewhere/comment-page-1#comment-1037</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, the &#039;Burning World&#039; title wasn&#039;t Ballard&#039;s idea...as to the rest of your comment, Paul, fair call. I agree you with you that there&#039;s a case to be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, the &#8216;Burning World&#8217; title wasn&#8217;t Ballard&#8217;s idea&#8230;as to the rest of your comment, Paul, fair call. I agree you with you that there&#8217;s a case to be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Bowes</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/the-wind-from-nowhere-is-now-a-wind-from-somewhere/comment-page-1#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bowes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pity that in order to make his weak case against the &#039;four elements&#039; pattern of Ballard&#039;s first four novels David Pringle has first to discount the existence of &#039;The Wind From Nowhere&#039; and then to depend on the feeble argument that &#039;Ballard has never, anywhere, to the best of my knowledge, stated that those four novels were based on the four classical elements&#039; - a silence which proves precisely nothing. The early critic Anthony Ryan was simply responding honestly to something that was directly in front of him, in the texts themselves.

In spite of Mr. Pringle&#039;s objection, &#039;The Crystal World&#039;&#039;s place as the &#039;earth&#039; novel is easily sustained - the book deals with the uncontrolled proliferation of &lt;i&gt;matter&lt;/i&gt;. It&#039;s also worth remembering that &#039;The Drought&#039;&#039;s original title was &#039;The Burning World&#039;, which reinforces that book&#039;s standing as the &#039;book of fire&#039;.

It may well be that the apparent symbolic patterning across the four novels is accidental - but it&#039;s a hell of a coincidence, and I would expect any competent critic, even at undergraduate level, to notice it. What the critic then makes of that patterning is up to the critic - not to David Pringle, or even Ballard himself.

In the end, however, it hardly matters whether Ballard intended the elemental symbolism or not. It&#039;s in the language itself, and even an explicit denial of intent by Ballard wouldn&#039;t root it out. &#039;The Wind From Nowhere&#039; is Ballard&#039;s first novel, and should be read as such, even if it has to be treated as apprentice work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity that in order to make his weak case against the &#8216;four elements&#8217; pattern of Ballard&#8217;s first four novels David Pringle has first to discount the existence of &#8216;The Wind From Nowhere&#8217; and then to depend on the feeble argument that &#8216;Ballard has never, anywhere, to the best of my knowledge, stated that those four novels were based on the four classical elements&#8217; &#8211; a silence which proves precisely nothing. The early critic Anthony Ryan was simply responding honestly to something that was directly in front of him, in the texts themselves.</p>
<p>In spite of Mr. Pringle&#8217;s objection, &#8216;The Crystal World&#8221;s place as the &#8216;earth&#8217; novel is easily sustained &#8211; the book deals with the uncontrolled proliferation of <i>matter</i>. It&#8217;s also worth remembering that &#8216;The Drought&#8221;s original title was &#8216;The Burning World&#8217;, which reinforces that book&#8217;s standing as the &#8216;book of fire&#8217;.</p>
<p>It may well be that the apparent symbolic patterning across the four novels is accidental &#8211; but it&#8217;s a hell of a coincidence, and I would expect any competent critic, even at undergraduate level, to notice it. What the critic then makes of that patterning is up to the critic &#8211; not to David Pringle, or even Ballard himself.</p>
<p>In the end, however, it hardly matters whether Ballard intended the elemental symbolism or not. It&#8217;s in the language itself, and even an explicit denial of intent by Ballard wouldn&#8217;t root it out. &#8216;The Wind From Nowhere&#8217; is Ballard&#8217;s first novel, and should be read as such, even if it has to be treated as apprentice work.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I always thought it was four elements, too, but according to David Pringle it&#039;s a misapprehension!

Iraklis, I have all the early Kraftwerks on CD, but no they are not official: mine are vinyl rips (although not too bad with the crackle and hiss). Didn&#039;t know there were copies made from tape.

Oh, and Fear and Desire! I completely forgot about that. That reminds me to buy it; there&#039;s a bloke on the net offering an nth-gen copy, but still I must have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I always thought it was four elements, too, but according to David Pringle it&#8217;s a misapprehension!</p>
<p>Iraklis, I have all the early Kraftwerks on CD, but no they are not official: mine are vinyl rips (although not too bad with the crackle and hiss). Didn&#8217;t know there were copies made from tape.</p>
<p>Oh, and Fear and Desire! I completely forgot about that. That reminds me to buy it; there&#8217;s a bloke on the net offering an nth-gen copy, but still I must have it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Coulthart</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/the-wind-from-nowhere-is-now-a-wind-from-somewhere/comment-page-1#comment-1031</link>
		<dc:creator>John Coulthart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s at least two sets of the first three Kraftwerk albums out there (and the Tone Float album), one lot taken from vinyl, another lot from tapes. The vinyl set crackles a bit but includes tracks from a 1975 concert as a bonus feature. One of the Ralf and Florian ones features the different artwork as well, with the circuit board cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s at least two sets of the first three Kraftwerk albums out there (and the Tone Float album), one lot taken from vinyl, another lot from tapes. The vinyl set crackles a bit but includes tracks from a 1975 concert as a bonus feature. One of the Ralf and Florian ones features the different artwork as well, with the circuit board cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Iraklis</title>
		<link>http://www.ballardian.com/the-wind-from-nowhere-is-now-a-wind-from-somewhere/comment-page-1#comment-1033</link>
		<dc:creator>Iraklis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody Hell!!! Greece must be the mother of bootleg cd releases, since i do have all three Kraftwerk (K.1, K.2 &amp; R+F)on cd, but i thought they were official... I also have the Wind From Nowhere on a cheap paperback (Charing Cross is the place to be) and if anybody would care for the cover, i will scan it soon. Kisses!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody Hell!!! Greece must be the mother of bootleg cd releases, since i do have all three Kraftwerk (K.1, K.2 &amp; R+F)on cd, but i thought they were official&#8230; I also have the Wind From Nowhere on a cheap paperback (Charing Cross is the place to be) and if anybody would care for the cover, i will scan it soon. Kisses!!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Coulthart</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Coulthart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Radioactivity had its lyrics amended and their recent live performances of the song have featured a doomy processed voice describing the amount of pollution that the Sellafield 2 plant produces. I wish they would give their early albums a proper release (although the various &quot;unofficial&quot; CDs aren&#039;t too hard to find). Ralf and Florian has always been a favourite of mine.

I also used to wonder if there was a four elements scheme at work with Ballard&#039;s early novels. Regarding The Drought and fire, it should be remembered that its early title was The Burning World. And another example of someone burying their early work is Stanley Kubrick whose first feature, Fear and Desire, is impossible to see outside occasional Kubrick season screenings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Radioactivity had its lyrics amended and their recent live performances of the song have featured a doomy processed voice describing the amount of pollution that the Sellafield 2 plant produces. I wish they would give their early albums a proper release (although the various &#8220;unofficial&#8221; CDs aren&#8217;t too hard to find). Ralf and Florian has always been a favourite of mine.</p>
<p>I also used to wonder if there was a four elements scheme at work with Ballard&#8217;s early novels. Regarding The Drought and fire, it should be remembered that its early title was The Burning World. And another example of someone burying their early work is Stanley Kubrick whose first feature, Fear and Desire, is impossible to see outside occasional Kubrick season screenings.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 07:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, John -- it is indeed Toby and I&#039;ve added some stuff to the entry to tease this out. Regarding Kraftwerk: they also changed the lyrics to the song Radio-activity, didn&#039;t they? Adding stuff about Chernobyl and Sellafield to make an anti-nuclear statement, rather than the ambivalent flavour of the original, with its homage to the mystical power of radio waves.

I just checked out those early albums on Wiki -- apparently the chaps are thinking of adding the &#039;Ralf and Florian&#039; album to Catalogue when it comes out. So there you go -- miracles do happen.

Still no word that the first two will go the same way, and if Tone Float ever gets an official re-release I&#039;ll eat my shoe live via web cam on this site*.

(*disclaimer: I am lying).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, John &#8212; it is indeed Toby and I&#8217;ve added some stuff to the entry to tease this out. Regarding Kraftwerk: they also changed the lyrics to the song Radio-activity, didn&#8217;t they? Adding stuff about Chernobyl and Sellafield to make an anti-nuclear statement, rather than the ambivalent flavour of the original, with its homage to the mystical power of radio waves.</p>
<p>I just checked out those early albums on Wiki &#8212; apparently the chaps are thinking of adding the &#8216;Ralf and Florian&#8217; album to Catalogue when it comes out. So there you go &#8212; miracles do happen.</p>
<p>Still no word that the first two will go the same way, and if Tone Float ever gets an official re-release I&#8217;ll eat my shoe live via web cam on this site*.</p>
<p>(*disclaimer: I am lying).</p>
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		<title>By: John Coulthart</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Coulthart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s Toby Litt that chose Ballard which makes more sense when you think about it.

Kraftwerk may have shunned their early albums but they were still playing Ruckzuck in the mid-Seventies; don&#039;t suppose they had much choice since their back catalogue wasn&#039;t very substantial then. I don&#039;t see it as a shunning in their case so much as part of an ongoing evolution or streamlining. The (as yet unreleased) Catalogue album collection saw changes being made to some of the sleeve art including the Nazi radio set being dropped from Radio-activity in favour of the day-glo radiation symbol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s Toby Litt that chose Ballard which makes more sense when you think about it.</p>
<p>Kraftwerk may have shunned their early albums but they were still playing Ruckzuck in the mid-Seventies; don&#8217;t suppose they had much choice since their back catalogue wasn&#8217;t very substantial then. I don&#8217;t see it as a shunning in their case so much as part of an ongoing evolution or streamlining. The (as yet unreleased) Catalogue album collection saw changes being made to some of the sleeve art including the Nazi radio set being dropped from Radio-activity in favour of the day-glo radiation symbol.</p>
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