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		<title>By: Self Atomising Machines: Hypnagogic Cyberpunk, Reality and Utopia &#124; nomadic utopianism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Self Atomising Machines: Hypnagogic Cyberpunk, Reality and Utopia &#124; nomadic utopianism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 02:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The spectre of Ballard is hovering around many of these themes. Ballardian traces the links between Ballard and cyberpunk (with Hakim Bey/Peter Lamborn Wilson thrown in too: it&#8217;s where I got the Semiotext(e) SF [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The spectre of Ballard is hovering around many of these themes. Ballardian traces the links between Ballard and cyberpunk (with Hakim Bey/Peter Lamborn Wilson thrown in too: it&#8217;s where I got the Semiotext(e) SF [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Science Fiction and Modernism &#171; Designism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science Fiction and Modernism &#171; Designism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tagged culture, j.g. ballard, modernism, science fiction    http://www.ballardian.com/unblinking-clinical-from-ballard-to-cyberpunk [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update, BD. I was so smitten by those Semiotext(e) graphics that I had an artist reproduce the style for an anthology I was working on a while ago. But this is great: there&#039;s lots for me to catch up on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update, BD. I was so smitten by those Semiotext(e) graphics that I had an artist reproduce the style for an anthology I was working on a while ago. But this is great: there&#8217;s lots for me to catch up on!</p>
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		<title>By: The Big Dentist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Big Dentist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, I just dug out some issues of Shatter and I have to say the years have not been kind to the artwork.  Although the strip had appeared as a backup in Jon Sable: Freelance and a one-off Shatter Special, Saenz left after two issues of it getting its own title.  I remember being pretty underwhelmed by his stuff even at the time; the replacement artists on the following six issues simply drew their artwork normally and had it digitized, until First Comics found someone capable of mimicking Saenz&#039;s technique, and in my opinion it never got beyond the jerky, flat, etch-a-sketch look.  I really wish he&#039;d tried producing a comic or some kind of sequential art in the same style as those Semiotext(e) graphics.  They remind me of Jim Steranko&#039;s illustrations for &quot;Repent, Harlequin!&quot; Said The Ticktockman from The Illustrated Harlan Ellison years ago (with special 3-D glasses included!) - similar kind of abstraction, overlays and repetition.

I still haven&#039;t read his Iron Man graphic novel.  Long out of print now, though I&#039;m amazed Marvel haven&#039;t reissued it.  It&#039;s a little piece of history and they&#039;re certainly not shy about caning their back-catalogue in the wake of the Iron Man movie.

Donna Matrix is more like it.  Full 3-D rendering: a bit blocky and sub-Lara Croft but not at all bad for fifteen years ago.  And who can argue with a messed-up, tooled-up sexbot who wants you to spit-shine her boots?

Is it not remarkable?  Simple oil of cloves, and how amazing the results...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, I just dug out some issues of Shatter and I have to say the years have not been kind to the artwork.  Although the strip had appeared as a backup in Jon Sable: Freelance and a one-off Shatter Special, Saenz left after two issues of it getting its own title.  I remember being pretty underwhelmed by his stuff even at the time; the replacement artists on the following six issues simply drew their artwork normally and had it digitized, until First Comics found someone capable of mimicking Saenz&#8217;s technique, and in my opinion it never got beyond the jerky, flat, etch-a-sketch look.  I really wish he&#8217;d tried producing a comic or some kind of sequential art in the same style as those Semiotext(e) graphics.  They remind me of Jim Steranko&#8217;s illustrations for &#8220;Repent, Harlequin!&#8221; Said The Ticktockman from The Illustrated Harlan Ellison years ago (with special 3-D glasses included!) &#8211; similar kind of abstraction, overlays and repetition.</p>
<p>I still haven&#8217;t read his Iron Man graphic novel.  Long out of print now, though I&#8217;m amazed Marvel haven&#8217;t reissued it.  It&#8217;s a little piece of history and they&#8217;re certainly not shy about caning their back-catalogue in the wake of the Iron Man movie.</p>
<p>Donna Matrix is more like it.  Full 3-D rendering: a bit blocky and sub-Lara Croft but not at all bad for fifteen years ago.  And who can argue with a messed-up, tooled-up sexbot who wants you to spit-shine her boots?</p>
<p>Is it not remarkable?  Simple oil of cloves, and how amazing the results&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Big Dentist,

Firstly, &quot;is it safe?&quot; And secondly, thanks for that info. I love Saenz&#039;s graphics in the Semiotext(e) anthology -- they seemed to tap into all sorts of semiological signals. Sort of like state-sanctioned pictograms with subliminal intent. I&#039;ve been looking forward to finding out more about his work, so those titles you&#039;ve supplied will come in handy. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Big Dentist,</p>
<p>Firstly, &#8220;is it safe?&#8221; And secondly, thanks for that info. I love Saenz&#8217;s graphics in the Semiotext(e) anthology &#8212; they seemed to tap into all sorts of semiological signals. Sort of like state-sanctioned pictograms with subliminal intent. I&#8217;ve been looking forward to finding out more about his work, so those titles you&#8217;ve supplied will come in handy. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: The Big Dentist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Big Dentist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worth noting too that illustrator Mike Saenz did a comic called Shatter in 1985.  Kind of Blade Runner-lite storywise, it was the first to be drawn on a computer (though traditionally coloured and lettered).  A couple of years later he produced the first digital graphic novel, Iron Man: Crash.  Donna Matrix from the early &#039;90s is worth a look as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth noting too that illustrator Mike Saenz did a comic called Shatter in 1985.  Kind of Blade Runner-lite storywise, it was the first to be drawn on a computer (though traditionally coloured and lettered).  A couple of years later he produced the first digital graphic novel, Iron Man: Crash.  Donna Matrix from the early &#8217;90s is worth a look as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Boland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Boland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was AMAZING.  Great brainfood, great remix, great think-piece...you gave me a lot to chew on for the evening and I&#039;m grateful.  Dope layout on the site itself, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was AMAZING.  Great brainfood, great remix, great think-piece&#8230;you gave me a lot to chew on for the evening and I&#8217;m grateful.  Dope layout on the site itself, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crashman -- no I don&#039;t. We don&#039;t have the viva in Australia. I wouldn&#039;t have minded defending it, however. If I can fend off some of the trolls on this website, I&#039;m sure I can defend my thesis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crashman &#8212; no I don&#8217;t. We don&#8217;t have the viva in Australia. I wouldn&#8217;t have minded defending it, however. If I can fend off some of the trolls on this website, I&#8217;m sure I can defend my thesis!</p>
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		<title>By: unblinking, cynical, clinical.. the golden age</title>
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		<dc:creator>unblinking, cynical, clinical.. the golden age</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hakim Bey and Ballard. Awesome, also with classic photos on the great gurus of the neon age. (via ballardian)     No Comments, Comment or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: High on some SF-sounding substance &#171; Strange Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>High on some SF-sounding substance &#171; Strange Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nice piece over at Ballardian looking at J.G.&#8217;s influence on cyberpunk. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Crashman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, do you have to &quot;orally defend&quot; your Thesis before the august Faculty Members in your Dep&#039;t.. in the time-honored Ph.D.Tradition? Or have they dispensed with that little ritual now?  It should be dispensed with - it&#039;s merely a personal torment. Your Thesis is, I&#039;m sure, quite clear on a Written Page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, do you have to &#8220;orally defend&#8221; your Thesis before the august Faculty Members in your Dep&#8217;t.. in the time-honored Ph.D.Tradition? Or have they dispensed with that little ritual now?  It should be dispensed with &#8211; it&#8217;s merely a personal torment. Your Thesis is, I&#8217;m sure, quite clear on a Written Page.</p>
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		<title>By: Evolution of Cyberpunk &#171; KuiperCliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evolution of Cyberpunk &#171; KuiperCliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8216;Unblinking, clinical&#8217;: From Ballard to cyberpunk [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, Crashman -- thanks for the personal recall. Very interesting. But surely the post you would be waiting for would be one about a dead pilot with a 747&#039;s landing gear wedged up his nose? Heh heh, only joking, man.

By the way, I&#039;m not a doctor -- my thesis is still under examination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, Crashman &#8212; thanks for the personal recall. Very interesting. But surely the post you would be waiting for would be one about a dead pilot with a 747&#8242;s landing gear wedged up his nose? Heh heh, only joking, man.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m not a doctor &#8212; my thesis is still under examination.</p>
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		<title>By: Crashman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Laughing) thx for the early pix of Bruce and Mr. Gibson!

 Bruce Sterling and I first met at the UofTexas at Austin SF Fan society, ca. 1975. I attended a few of the legendary &quot;Turkey Cities&quot; of us beginning wannabe-writers and even got to see and critique the first-draft typescript of Bruce&#039;s 1st published novel, *Involution Ocean*.  In the early 90s his support for the Electronic Frontier Foundation and his &quot;Hacker Crackdown&quot; book were invaluable. I remember him throwing that book out as fistfuls of disks to a whole seated &#039;hacker undeground&quot; convention, HoHoCon in 1992.  He had inserted a clause with his *Hacker Crackdown* publisher enabling him to do that w/o breaking his publisher&#039;s rights to his work. So they had bought SOME (but not ALL) of the copyrights to it.. (A copyright is best thought of legally as a BUNDLE of separable rights, the splitting of the Bundle limited only by your thoughts - and what 2 parties can agree on...)

 A brave, tenacious, and very wise man. And of us all, only he made it to a REAL career as a gen-U-Wine SF Writer!  A complex man, and we have enjoyed a complex - but geo-far-off - relationship for many decades now.  With his permission, I distributed samizdat-made copies of his story &quot;Green Days in Brunei&quot; when I lived in 2 yrs. in Brunei (see: Borneo, N. Coast) and the Bruneians were blown away that such a great writer had so - umm,  honored their country. In return, I sent Bruce a Brunei Dollar.  I believe he still has it.

His blog at WIRED = http://blog.wired.com/sterling/     &quot;Beyond the Beyond&quot;.  A Professional Futurist!

 And he spoke the Truth... yes, ALL of us were Ballardians even back then, not fit to polish the Man&#039;s boots.  And so we both remain. Each tributing JGB in our own ways. 33 years now and counting.

 Simon, this was the post I was waiting for. THANKS, DOCTOR Sellars!

Crashman - 0 degrees of separation from Mr. Sterling since 1975-6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Laughing) thx for the early pix of Bruce and Mr. Gibson!</p>
<p> Bruce Sterling and I first met at the UofTexas at Austin SF Fan society, ca. 1975. I attended a few of the legendary &#8220;Turkey Cities&#8221; of us beginning wannabe-writers and even got to see and critique the first-draft typescript of Bruce&#8217;s 1st published novel, *Involution Ocean*.  In the early 90s his support for the Electronic Frontier Foundation and his &#8220;Hacker Crackdown&#8221; book were invaluable. I remember him throwing that book out as fistfuls of disks to a whole seated &#8216;hacker undeground&#8221; convention, HoHoCon in 1992.  He had inserted a clause with his *Hacker Crackdown* publisher enabling him to do that w/o breaking his publisher&#8217;s rights to his work. So they had bought SOME (but not ALL) of the copyrights to it.. (A copyright is best thought of legally as a BUNDLE of separable rights, the splitting of the Bundle limited only by your thoughts &#8211; and what 2 parties can agree on&#8230;)</p>
<p> A brave, tenacious, and very wise man. And of us all, only he made it to a REAL career as a gen-U-Wine SF Writer!  A complex man, and we have enjoyed a complex &#8211; but geo-far-off &#8211; relationship for many decades now.  With his permission, I distributed samizdat-made copies of his story &#8220;Green Days in Brunei&#8221; when I lived in 2 yrs. in Brunei (see: Borneo, N. Coast) and the Bruneians were blown away that such a great writer had so &#8211; umm,  honored their country. In return, I sent Bruce a Brunei Dollar.  I believe he still has it.</p>
<p>His blog at WIRED = <a href="http://blog.wired.com/sterling/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/sterling/</a>     &#8220;Beyond the Beyond&#8221;.  A Professional Futurist!</p>
<p> And he spoke the Truth&#8230; yes, ALL of us were Ballardians even back then, not fit to polish the Man&#8217;s boots.  And so we both remain. Each tributing JGB in our own ways. 33 years now and counting.</p>
<p> Simon, this was the post I was waiting for. THANKS, DOCTOR Sellars!</p>
<p>Crashman &#8211; 0 degrees of separation from Mr. Sterling since 1975-6.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick McGrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh... ya got me in the subhead... as you know, Tallis is also the protagonist of You:Coma:Marilyn Monroe, and by implication her association with Kennedy... Y:C:MM was written in 1966, so JGB must have &quot;updated&quot; Tallis to his new obsession with Reagan when WIWTFRR was written in 1968. It&#039;s also an update in pudenda fixation, from Nader to Reagan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh&#8230; ya got me in the subhead&#8230; as you know, Tallis is also the protagonist of You:Coma:Marilyn Monroe, and by implication her association with Kennedy&#8230; Y:C:MM was written in 1966, so JGB must have &#8220;updated&#8221; Tallis to his new obsession with Reagan when WIWTFRR was written in 1968. It&#8217;s also an update in pudenda fixation, from Nader to Reagan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sellars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Sellars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, that&#039;s not true -- in Why I Want to Fuck Ronald Reagan, the subheads read:

&#039;Tallis became increasingly obsessed with the pudenda of the Presidential contender mediated to him by a thousand television screens&#039;.

&#039;Tallis&#039;, of course, is one of the names by which T- is known and the &#039;Presidential contender&#039; is of course Reagan. The &#039;thousand television screens&#039; is another clear indication that Blumlein was homaging Atrocity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that&#8217;s not true &#8212; in Why I Want to Fuck Ronald Reagan, the subheads read:</p>
<p>&#8216;Tallis became increasingly obsessed with the pudenda of the Presidential contender mediated to him by a thousand television screens&#8217;.</p>
<p>&#8216;Tallis&#8217;, of course, is one of the names by which T- is known and the &#8216;Presidential contender&#8217; is of course Reagan. The &#8216;thousand television screens&#8217; is another clear indication that Blumlein was homaging Atrocity.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick McGrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon... one nitpick: the T- character in Atrocity is not obsessed with Reagan, but with Kennedy. But WIWTFRR was certainly a chapter/short story/part of Atrocity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon&#8230; one nitpick: the T- character in Atrocity is not obsessed with Reagan, but with Kennedy. But WIWTFRR was certainly a chapter/short story/part of Atrocity.</p>
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